[Inkscape-devel] snap to page border

[David Christian Berg]

The first and often only guides, I create, are guides on the page border
and guides that are within a 5 mm frame from the border.
Now this makes me think if it wouldn't make sense to have a "snap to
page border" in the documents prefs (page tab) as well as a "snap to
margin" and then be able to define a top, left, right, bottom margin of
the page.
Should I file an RFE?


David

[Alan Horkan]

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:19:38 +0100
Subject: [Inkscape-devel] snap to page border
The first and often only guides, I create, are guides on the page border
and guides that are within a 5 mm frame from the border.
Now this makes me think if it wouldn't make sense to have a "snap to
page border" in the documents prefs (page tab) as well as a "snap to
margin" and then be able to define a top, left, right, bottom margin of
the page.
Should I file an RFE?

I am sure it would be useful to have.

I wonder if snap to grid could be improved to avoid needing a seperate
preference? (What do Illustrator Freehand or other applictions do?)

I notice that the grid already lines up with the vertical edges of my
page but not the top edge, perhaps the grid positioning could be tweaked
so that it lines up with the top and left edges more easily?

- Alan

[Alan Horkan]

Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 06:28:24 +0100
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] snap to page border

Post by Alan Horkan

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:19:38 +0100
Subject: [Inkscape-devel] snap to page border
The first and often only guides, I create, are guides on the page border
and guides that are within a 5 mm frame from the border.
Now this makes me think if it wouldn't make sense to have a "snap to
page border" in the documents prefs (page tab) as well as a "snap to
margin" and then be able to define a top, left, right, bottom margin of
the page.
Should I file an RFE?

I am sure it would be useful to have.
I wonder if snap to grid could be improved to avoid needing a seperate
preference? (What do Illustrator Freehand or other applictions do?)
I notice that the grid already lines up with the vertical edges of my
page but not the top edge, perhaps the grid positioning could be tweaked
so that it lines up with the top and left edges more easily?

Not really because the grid is not _supposed_ to do that, since you
specify the distance between the gridlines and maybe an orgin.

Okay so in the case of the document I opened it was coincidence that the
page edges coincided with Grid lines but you said "maybe an origin" so I
am asking if there is any reason for the 'origin' not to be setup in such
a way as to coincided with the top left corner of the page?

Damn. To answer my own question I see that Inkscape considers the bottom
left corner to be the origin and the grid does align with that corner.

I think a seperate option is actually quite needed and it's what I know
from InDesign after all.

I thought the grid was more dynamic than it really was, the current grid
hides some of the lines when it is at 50% Zoom level and as a result I
incorrectly assumed that the grid was dynamic and got subdivided at
different Zoom levels (but it doesn't).

- Alan

[David Christian Berg]

Post by Alan Horkan

Not really because the grid is not _supposed_ to do that, since you
specify the distance between the gridlines and maybe an orgin.

Okay so in the case of the document I opened it was coincidence that the
page edges coincided with Grid lines but you said "maybe an origin" so I
am asking if there is any reason for the 'origin' not to be setup in such
a way as to coincided with the top left corner of the page?
Damn. To answer my own question I see that Inkscape considers the bottom
left corner to be the origin and the grid does align with that corner.

yup, that's fine, but maybe a grid offset from that orgin would be cool
as well... but no priority

Post by Alan Horkan

I think a seperate option is actually quite needed and it's what I know
from InDesign after all.

I thought the grid was more dynamic than it really was, the current grid
hides some of the lines when it is at 50% Zoom level and as a result I
incorrectly assumed that the grid was dynamic and got subdivided at
different Zoom levels (but it doesn't).

Well, even if it did, it would not replace the margin and page egde
snapping.. I usually have a 10mm grid with 2 subdevision in InDesign.
Since the page has a hight of 297 mm I won't have a gridline on the page
edge nor at the margin, that would maybe be at 12 mm...

David

[MenTaLguY]

Post by Alan Horkan
Okay so in the case of the document I opened it was coincidence that the
page edges coincided with Grid lines but you said "maybe an origin" so I
am asking if there is any reason for the 'origin' not to be setup in such
a way as to coincided with the top left corner of the page?
Damn. To answer my own question I see that Inkscape considers the bottom
left corner to be the origin and the grid does align with that corner.

This is actually a long-standing bug in Inkscape that we inherited from
Sodipodi -- SVG specifies that the origin is in the upper left-hand
corner.

It was actually a deliberate decision on Lauris' part, but it has proven
very hard to undo (I think we'll be looking at fixing it again in 0.41).

Looks like we'll have to figure out how to keep grids in existing
documents from shifting as well when this is fixed, though...

-mental

[David Christian Berg]

Post by Alan Horkan

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:19:38 +0100
Subject: [Inkscape-devel] snap to page border
The first and often only guides, I create, are guides on the page border
and guides that are within a 5 mm frame from the border.
Now this makes me think if it wouldn't make sense to have a "snap to
page border" in the documents prefs (page tab) as well as a "snap to
margin" and then be able to define a top, left, right, bottom margin of
the page.
Should I file an RFE?

I am sure it would be useful to have.
I wonder if snap to grid could be improved to avoid needing a seperate
preference? (What do Illustrator Freehand or other applictions do?)
I notice that the grid already lines up with the vertical edges of my
page but not the top edge, perhaps the grid positioning could be tweaked
so that it lines up with the top and left edges more easily?

Not really because the grid is not _supposed_ to do that, since you
specify the distance between the gridlines and maybe an orgin.
I think a seperate option is actually quite needed and it's what I know
from InDesign after all.

David